Comparison German Infantry, Motorized & Panzer Divisions 1939 – Visualization



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  • Germany should have started the War in September 1942. Having
    3 more years to better Ecpuipe all
    it's Divisions. And also it's Navy and Air force.

    George Dimakopoulos June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • MHV: is one of the most serious military history channels on YT
    also MHV: references MLP

    the internet is a wonderful place 😀

    Caliba62 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • There were not even 600.000 motor vehicles in civilian use for most of countries in the World at the time.Even in İtaly or Japan which had so small automotive industries and lacked industrial capacity.

    Erich Von Manstein June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Well their divisions actually equipped pretty well for the beginning especially had very big numbers of anti tank guns.

    Erich Von Manstein June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • The world was saved thanks to the fact the Wehrmacht was not fully motorised.

    Ankh Morpok June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • German mechanization rate were below of US and British Army but certainly ahead of Japanese,İtalian by far and even Red Army(per German division had much more motor vehicles than their Soviet opponents and when Soviet Union invaded by Germany in June of 1941 they had 272.600 military motor vehicles while German invasion force had approx 600.000)

    Erich Von Manstein June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • İf you have limited amounts of fuel,you’re doomed to horses…

    Erich Von Manstein June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Germany should of started the War in September 1942. Having 3
    more years to fully equip all its Divisions. That by then they would have had 165 Infandry, 24 Panzer, 12 Mechanized, 3 Paz. Grenadian, 6 Light, 6 Mountain, 12 Security, 3 Parashute, 1 Airborn Divisions. Total about 231 Divisions. Plus more War Ships , Sumbarines . Also War Playns (18 000). Plus the New 262 Jets and V1, V2, V3 Missiles (43, 44). And the Armys Panther I, Tiger I and Marden IIIs Tanks (43, 44). So as the War
    went on (From September 1942 — September 1944, about 2 Years), the Germans would have had these New Wepons in 43, 44.
    And building them in Very Large Numbers. They would have taken by September 1944, the following Cantrys like:" Poland, Denmark, Norway, Holand, Belgium, Luxen., France, England, Scotland, N. Italy, Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria, Malta, Tunisia, Yugoslavia, Greece, also Eygept and Sinai "(In 24 Months). From about September 1943 — September 1944, Many New Panzer Divisions would be equipt with these New Weapons (Tanks). All the rest of the Divisions will be equipt with past weapons and continue and take Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait (Tomas). Also Palestine, Lebenon, Syria (Romell). (In 6 Months). Then Algeria, Marocco (Klist). Gilbrota (Kesserling). (In 4 Months). Then Sudan, Etyopia, Erythrea, Somalia, Kenia (Rommel, Tomas). (In 6 Months). After they take Iran ((Rommel).(In 2 Months). All these by March 1946. (In 18 Months). Japan and Germany on till that day will not declear War on USA and Russia. The Germans from September 1945 — April
    1946, will move a Large number
    of Divisions to Eastern Poland. ( 12 Armys, 6 Panzer Grouppen and 4 Air-Armys). So they will (If) attack Europian Russia in May 1946. Tomas and Rommal will continue in Africa taking Cantrys. The Japanise will attack Pearl Harbour Hawai in September 1946. With 4 Air Attacks and sink 3/5 of the US Pacific Fleet. Then Japans 4 Other Navys, will attack Cantrys in the South East Pacific Ocean (Philippines, Malay, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Burma, Indonesia, N. Guinea. Then all the Solomons Islands, Figi, Samoa, New Zealand. After Midway and Hawai. Also India to try to connect with the Germans. Who will attack in May 1946, Afganistan. Then in June 1946, Pakistan and after in September 1946, India. Then in May 1947, Japan can land in Loss Angeles, California. The Germans with the New Wepons, will take
    3/4 of Europian Russia in abouy
    6 Months May 1946 — October 1946. Then Possition there Armys neer the Volga River Mga, Gorgi, Veronaze and Rostov. Then in March 1947, move to reach the Ural Montains, Stalingrad and
    the Caucasos Oil Fields at Baku. By then the USA and Russia will except German and Japanise turms and Give up.

    George Dimakopoulos June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Thank you, I use these videos as a guide to design historically accurate divisions and Order of Battle in Hearts of Iron 4

    LeDeux11 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Mein klein pony

    MISANTHROPE00 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Hilarious ending!

    Pike Stance June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Whats the difference between a division and a brigade?

    Никола June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I liked that awkward pause at 4:35.

    Peasant June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • It’s interesting when you compare the impression people have of a mobile German Army, and the actual reality of a peak of motorization in February 1945, of only 17% of ground forces. I don’t know if that figure from memory includes the Waffen SS.

    Munderpool June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Hey, MHV guy: I have a piece of friendly advice for you. Your ending, you always seem to say, "see you next time," which makes sense and everything, except for this one tidbit: in English, especially in American dialects (where I believe this originated), the phrase "see you next time," is actually a quasi-sneaky way to insult someone. If you acronym the letters you get See, read C, You, read U, Next, read N, and finally Time, read T. Spell that out and you get that nastiest single word our fair language has on offer, and you literally say it at the end of every video. Now, I know this isn't the intent, but it might be worth a look into- in the modern age it is rather easy to cause a stir after all…

    Also unacceptable for the same reason is the phrase, "see you next Tuesday," which is also tantamount to outright calling them a cunt. Often used in office settings, to avoid accusations of foul language by the target (you can plausibly deny using this; but it's only management-level deniability. Everyone will know precisely what you meant, but they can't put that on your official documents as the reason for firing you, so it continues to see moderate use) or even, funnily enough, in military settings, where it's filed next to FUBAR and SNAFU as politically-correct ways to use language that would otherwise see you get a swift and terse court-martial if your CO was within earshot. I'm guessing you weren't aware of this phenomena, so I'm hoping to gently introduce you to the other meaning that particular grouping of words has on certain English-speaking viewers, because it can be pretty profound. We Aussies love the word, "cunt;" it's used in place of the word "person" quite frequently with no ill intent, but Americans get rather crotchety over it's use. Very bad thing to say over there. Gets one punched.

    Great stuff though man. Seriously. I could binge-watch your vids for hours, and I think I just might, 🙂

    NightRaven 1901 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Hello: I really love your channel! Thanks for your hard work. Perhaps you might do a video on what type and amount of supplies that German units used in WW2? I heard somewhere that allied units used much more material(s) than the Wehrmacht. Also, how about some videos concerning Hungarian,Romanian and Bulgarian units? Danke!

    tekis0 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • made me laugh for a minute there at the end…. follow me on ''twittler'' lol

    Adam Collins June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Wait wat? Who used Rainbow Dash during a war?!

    pixel wortel June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I can't believe you mentioned my little pony in a WWII video. And I never thought I would use "my little pony" and "WWII" in the same sentence.

    O1993 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • One of the most unstated and least known tragedies of World War 1 and 2 was the devastation to horses on a unprecedented scale. Humanity at its worst.

    NapoleonsTriumph June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Lawl. Do you think Hitler used twitler? ROFL

    Einstien And Enfield June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Love the MLP-reference at the end 😀

    Fredrik Bellman June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Every military enthusiast at some point must study the wehrmacht. They were frightfully effective considering their tall order and the tools they had to work with in World War 2.

    Frey Jepson June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Awesome work, as it is customary of yours. One remark, though: depending on what one might call "severely" I think that the 1941 Panzer Division didn´t have their tank numbers reduced big time. Around 25% less tanks per division, and mainly because the Germans viewed their early Panzer Divisions as "too tank-heavy".

    Richardsen June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Why the hell couldent have taken out Rainbow dash?????????? DAMNIT

    James McArthur June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • What kind of weapons are you talking about when you say infantry guns ?? thx

    prénom nom June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • In modern day Finnish army everyone, including those who go to the navy and air force, first must go trough same basic training as infantry. Was that the case with Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine?

    TheRomanRuler June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I appreciate your videos, they are quite exhaustive and instructing, however I would like to point out to an incorrect info you give in this particular video. When you say the german army had 650k trucks you must know that many motor veichles Germans labeled as trucks were used to carry artillery pieces and did just that job, today they would be named "tow trucks". Those that could be considered real trucks were much less and many had been taken from the French the year before. For example this book

    http://www.operationbarbarossa.net/

    puts the figure for truck production at 84k for the entire 1941. In 2015 the whole world prodution for commercial veichles was 22M, we were really lucky that the Aryan Race was not able to conquer the world otherwise we would use donkeys or our own backs to carry everything we need

    Leviathan883 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • If we compare with a Soviet infantry division of 1941 (04/400 by 05.04.1941) we can see a situation very similar to the German infantry division (558 cars and trucks + 3039 horses + 841 horse-driven vehicles for 14483 of personnel). So this level of "horsefication" doesn't look THAT bad – it's quite ordinal for that time, and we talk about Soviet division AFTER the French campaign of Wehrmacht (there was a lot of changes in RKKA in 1939 and 1940).
    And while "normal" Soviet tank division of 1941 was not that far from the German one (around 310 tanks of all classes including around 60 heavy tanks KV-1, KV-2, T-35 + 1360 cars and trucks + 84 tractors + 380 motorcycles + ~90 armored cars + 24 howitzers + 4 infantry guns + 45 mortars for 10942 personnel) those of RKKA were mostly a) recently formed and b) under the normal numbers. For example, it's estimated that divisions of 5th Army of RKKA had only 26% of artillery tractors required, and 40th tank division had only 200 trucks and cars.
    And what is really important – RKKA didn't have APC at that time. At all. So there were problems while supporting tanks with infantry. Wehrmacht also had problems with APCs but at least that was a non-zero number.
    In the end it looks like mechanization of those Panzer and Panzergrenadier divisions was really high by that time and place, and more importantly there was a knowledge how to use it, while infantry divisions were basically average for that time.
    What do you think?

    Illia Kondratov June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Hmm – I may have bad information but from what I understand Motorized does not necessarily mean everyone rides around in trucks. Just that the heavy weapons e.g. artillery, mortars, HMGs etc are in motor vehicles rather than horse drawn wagons. Also you'd have supply trucks rather than horses and wagons. This means that a motorized battalion is still going to be confined to marching speed. That having been said a truck pool at division level was common and some (not all) of the division could be transported that way.

    Regarding the number of tanks in a panzer division it seems that every army made the same pre war mistake – too many tanks not enough infantry. I believe the Poland and France panzer divisions had 2 panzer and 1 panzergrenadier regiment while the Barbarossa panzer divisions had 1 panzer and 2 panzergrenadier regiments. Certainly Britain initially started with 2 armored brigades containing 3 armored regiments (battalion sized forces) and 1 mechanized battalion. Experience taught them to swap out one of the armored brigades for an infantry brigade. Tank rushing don't work very well in the real WW2 I guess.

    Paul Jackson June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I enjoyed watching your videos very much, thanks for taking the time.

    Alexander Innes June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • This channel gives me hard-ons.

    CommanderSanta June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Have I just saw a pony in a wermacht-related video?

    Олег Козлов June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I did the math according to your data, and got 440000 motor vehicles, not 600,000. Does the amount of halftracks and artillery tractors(not mentioned in this video) fill the 160000 vehicle gap?

    Luis Corzo jr_ June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Could you do a Video on the birth of Special Forces: The first modern special forces units were established by men who had served with the British Commandos, including the Parachute Regiment, Special Air Service, Special Boat Service and Chindits. Being widely imitated by other nations

    Henrey bradley June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Hey MHV!
    Neighbour from Slovenia saying guten tag 🙂

    Vid Guček June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I really like how both the regular and motorized infantry divisions of the Heer had no infantry, makes it very clear what they are and what they do. That's in sharp comparison to a modern US Army infantry and armored divisions in where the only difference between the two are the number of tanks they have.

    Riceball01 June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • What, they had still horses? Thank you a lot I would have never imagined this. Somehow no military film ever showed this.

    A Little Moonlight June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Hi Can you sent me a deleted video Warld war two losses visualized? Weekend_2000@mail.ru Thank you!

    Александр Смирнов June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Excellent video and the Rainbow Dash reference was good lol.

    Tiger Tank June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • I love this channel. It's quite rare you'll ever see one. I always appreciate his videos.

    Andrew K. Calvert June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • i think the final moments of your vid showed the biggest "downside" to ww2 german readiness… those damned hay burners. it's a perfect illustration of the upper echelon addiction to "elite troops" and "wonder weapons", while giving little to no shits about the average grunt. the foot soldier, et al, was equipped at "state of the art, best ideas" as existed about an hour after ww1 closed. spend huge on ever bigger, less adaptable tanks, on small numbers of gee whiz planes that have no real effect, but skimp on trucks, jeeps, ammo haulers. build a fire under a frozen 2 ton truck, t defrosts, and can be driven… do the same with a frozen horse, you have bbq for 100 men tonight.

    ludditeneanderthal June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Can you do a video about the motorcycles and why they stopped using them in war?

    Amadeus June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • Could you do a video on the defensive plan to defend Western Europe from the soviet invasion during the early years of the Cold War?

    Clayton June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply
  • That poke at MLP XD

    DWatchRazgriz June 7, 2020 1:19 am Reply

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